Meaningless pre-cognitions

[Dragev]

Sorry if this is off topic. As it has to do with both dreams and wakeful experiences of pre-cognitive images.

This falls into a unique type of this phenomenon that I have experienced only once for a period in my late twenties. They are set apart by normal pre-cognitions by being utterly meaningless. Well not all, but some are.

Here are some examples.

I dreamed I ended up on the wrong floor when visiting my grandfather at an elderly care home. I walked down the corridor in the dream quite a bit before I recognized it was the wrong floor because of the pictures on the wall. The day after I ended up at 6A despite being sure I pushed the 5A button. I told some family members. They said they had experienced the lift going to other floors then they chose. But still..,

I dreamed a girl I like and talk to a lot ignored me. Yesterday she did and is clearly angry for something (that is not a meaningless one). And she has no reason to be that I know of.

Half a year ago I was flirting talking to another girl. And just when it seemed we were getting to where one asks the other out it got awkward. And I ignored her. Two weeks ago I dreamed I walked passed her on the street and she broke the ice and said hi, I did not see her at first because of the bright sun. And of late I have had these images pop into my mind where she started talking to me again. And she did. Today I was going to catch the local train and pictures of her being on the same train was there…and she was. Never happened on Sunday ever.

Friday I just knew it would be pasta for dinner at home. Not happened for three months…(In between jobs and houses so live at home I grew up in until autumn)

Those kind of things. All thought I should add that the exception to this list (the girl who is angry/ignoring me). I have a frightening tendency to foresee what she will say and do. And most of these incidents of late have to do with her. But why these meaningless add on like the dinner and wrong floor?

Anyone here relate to this?

 

[JungianDreamer]

I understand how intriguing and sometimes puzzling it can be when dreams seem to align with real-life events, both significant and seemingly trivial. I've had similar experiences myself, where dreams would incorporate seemingly random details that later mirrored elements of my waking life.

In my personal journey, I've come to believe that dreams serve as a bridge between our conscious and unconscious minds. They provide us with a symbolic language through which our deeper emotions, desires, and fears can manifest. While some dreams may hold clear and direct meanings, others may appear more enigmatic or nonsensical at first glance.

When it comes to these seemingly meaningless elements in dreams, I've found that they often hold subtle messages or reflections of our inner states. They might not be as straightforward as other dream symbols, but they can still carry significance. For instance, dreaming about being on the wrong floor or encountering unexpected situations could symbolize feelings of disorientation or a need for reassessment in our waking lives.

In the context of relationships, dreams can tap into our deepest desires and anxieties. Dreaming about someone we have feelings for, even in scenarios that seem unrelated, might indicate our longing for connection or unresolved emotions surrounding that person. The ability to foresee their actions or interactions could reflect our intuitive understanding of their behaviors or our own heightened sensitivity to their emotions.

As for the seemingly random events, I've come to appreciate that our minds are constantly processing information on both conscious and unconscious levels. It's possible that our dreams pick up on subtle cues or patterns in our environment, allowing us to make predictions or associations that might seem coincidental. Our minds have an incredible capacity for recognizing and synthesizing information, even when we're not consciously aware of it.

Ultimately, dreams are deeply personal experiences, and their meanings can vary from individual to individual. It's important to trust your own instincts and interpretations while exploring the symbolism and deeper layers of your dreams. By delving into the emotions, themes, and connections within your dreams, you can gain valuable insights into your subconscious mind and the intricate tapestry of your inner world.

 

[Dragev]

I understand how intriguing and sometimes puzzling it can be when dreams seem to align with real-life events, both significant and seemingly trivial. I've had similar experiences myself, where dreams would incorporate seemingly random details that later mirrored elements of my waking life.

In my personal journey, I've come to believe that dreams serve as a bridge between our conscious and unconscious minds. They provide us with a symbolic language through which our deeper emotions, desires, and fears can manifest. While some dreams may hold clear and direct meanings, others may appear more enigmatic or nonsensical at first glance.

When it comes to these seemingly meaningless elements in dreams, I've found that they often hold subtle messages or reflections of our inner states. They might not be as straightforward as other dream symbols, but they can still carry significance. For instance, dreaming about being on the wrong floor or encountering unexpected situations could symbolize feelings of disorientation or a need for reassessment in our waking lives.

In the context of relationships, dreams can tap into our deepest desires and anxieties. Dreaming about someone we have feelings for, even in scenarios that seem unrelated, might indicate our longing for connection or unresolved emotions surrounding that person. The ability to foresee their actions or interactions could reflect our intuitive understanding of their behaviors or our own heightened sensitivity to their emotions.

As for the seemingly random events, I've come to appreciate that our minds are constantly processing information on both conscious and unconscious levels. It's possible that our dreams pick up on subtle cues or patterns in our environment, allowing us to make predictions or associations that might seem coincidental. Our minds have an incredible capacity for recognizing and synthesizing information, even when we're not consciously aware of it.

Ultimately, dreams are deeply personal experiences, and their meanings can vary from individual to individual. It's important to trust your own instincts and interpretations while exploring the symbolism and deeper layers of your dreams. By delving into the emotions, themes, and connections within your dreams, you can gain valuable insights into your subconscious mind and the intricate tapestry of your inner world.

Hi and thank you for a long an thoughtful reply.

I was “wrong” about the “ignored me”, situation, kind of. I tried saying Hi two times that day with no response. Probably because she did not see or hear me in the chaos at work. And then I got cold. So from her view it was probably me being an idiot. . And truth be told. I have put up a wall the last month. Afraid to get close. But today I think I managed to open up and invite her in again. Because everything seemed fine again and we talked a lot and sort of “automatic” clear up a few things that has build up because of me withdrawing and relying on assumptions rather than asking, talking and being honest. But the dream was still kind of true. And perhaps that was the meaning behind this one. I projected the fact that I was pushing her away without seeing it myself on her in the dream. Thus I created the situation, not her…and maybe I was going to learn just that. Seems I did.

Another theory I have. For those meaningless ones is this. And I base it on a long-standing rejection of mechanistic materialism in favor of idealism. It seems that when one’s mind is open to pre-cognition. It is like the separation of one’s personal self and the “mind at large” is more thin or weakened. So it might be that meaningless pre-cognitions is a byproduct of that. I see something important, but some unimportant glimpses slip in as well. I have heard people on psychedelics report something along those lines.

 

[Dragev]

Not sure if this is the right place. Or forum. But zi want to do it anyways.

It is about this “she ignored me” thing. The dream was right about that as stated above. I even wrote it down about a week before it happened. And my re-interpretation later in this thread is just wrong in light of recent developments. Hope someone can help. I cover up some details despite being recognized here is a slim chance..

So. I first met her after this dream at the place she works. We had a long talk and everything seemed normal. She was friendly and caring as usual. We said goodbye and I left.

So about 4 days later I come there. Say hi not one but two times. I get ignored. Later she comes to help me and does not say hi, twice. And seems cold. When I leave I stop and try to say goodbye. She just looks down and ignores me. So I leave. I come by later. And she smiles and seen her normal sekf. About an hour later. But now I am so shaken that I don’t say anything.

Then I see her again about five days later. Walk up to her and say hi. And we talk like this never happened! So I just used the explanation I added here later in the thread.

But now I have seen a lot more of this strange behavior. Except it changes by the minute. One moment she does not say hi, the next she does. She can seem annoyed that I talk to her one moment. And then come over and talk away and shine like a sun ten minutes later…

Anyone have some plausible theory?

 

[Summerwings]

Yes this is something that happens to me a lot, my pre-cognition is pretty meaningless. Like someone else said above the meaningless is full of meaning technically but it's just very mundane symbolism. You can apply this to life in general, like you for example going to work or picking up some food at the store isn't exactly that epic of an experience that blasts you into new realms of radical possibilities. There are what I call bridge events, they all have divine meaning but they're just transitional states where what your state currently will color the experience the most and make it the most distinct. That trip to the store on Monday is certainly different on Tuesday when various elements of your life and experience were different even if you did the same thing in general there that day, it was even different in small ways like taking a different route to get to what you wanted or different people around you that you had no direct interaction with. For me precognition is just random stuff that will unfold, there doesn't need to be anything mind blowing going on there. Sometimes it isn't even in a dream, it's just a brief flash of an event that runs through my mind in a specific way and soon it happens. It's distinctly different than deja-vu in the way it feels too but I can't put my finger on why.

On your above post it could be that she's simply going through a turbulent time herself and it's presenting itself as extremely erratic behavior. The boldest move you could make that may even be appreciated is simply asking her what is going on there. I know I'd personally appreciate it if someone did that for me if they saw I was very off and inconsistent for a while. You may catch her by surprise though because from experience I also know people don't tend to do that and are pretty cold in general. It would really stand out to me.

 

[Dragev]

Yes this is something that happens to me a lot, my pre-cognition is pretty meaningless. Like someone else said above the meaningless is full of meaning technically but it's just very mundane symbolism. You can apply this to life in general, like you for example going to work or picking up some food at the store isn't exactly that epic of an experience that blasts you into new realms of radical possibilities. There are what I call bridge events, they all have divine meaning but they're just transitional states where what your state currently will color the experience the most and make it the most distinct. That trip to the store on Monday is certainly different on Tuesday when various elements of your life and experience were different even if you did the same thing in general there that day, it was even different in small ways like taking a different route to get to what you wanted or different people around you that you had no direct interaction with. For me precognition is just random stuff that will unfold, there doesn't need to be anything mind blowing going on there. Sometimes it isn't even in a dream, it's just a brief flash of an event that runs through my mind in a specific way and soon it happens. It's distinctly different than deja-vu in the way it feels too but I can't put my finger on why.

On your above post it could be that she's simply going through a turbulent time herself and it's presenting itself as extremely erratic behavior. The boldest move you could make that may even be appreciated is simply asking her what is going on there. I know I'd personally appreciate it if someone did that for me if they saw I was very off and inconsistent for a while. You may catch her by surprise though because from experience I also know people don't tend to do that and are pretty cold in general. It would really stand out to me.

Thank you for reply and another interesting perspective on this. By the way when I do mindfulness meditation and reach a certain level where my analytical thinking shuts off I get visions and short dreamlike visions. I am not able to keep them more than a few seconds, because my thinking starts again and want to analyze it and the “trip” stops. There are almost never pre-cognitions there. But some of the things I see are just nonsense I am shocked are even there.

And yes. I have decided to ask her about this. Tell here that I have noticed a difference in her behavior of late. And say that if something have happened or if I have said or done something wrong I want to kniw. And add that I really value knowing her. Because I do. I am really torn up over this ;(