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Harvey

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You consider yourself member of the lbtq community?I mean, are you bisexual having relationships with women and men back and forth?
 

Helia

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Do you have a sister? Has something happened in your childhood? I am still thinking about your anima, inner fem....may be hurt?
 

Harvey

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I asked that because i have somehow 'seen' pecularities, going against all odds in your dreams, so that it would be a plausible explanation.
 

Harvey

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It has to do with my experience of seeing and the interpretation of thousands of dreams. I start from a standard model. While I can say something of every dream, I don't waste my time responding to every dream. If you look at my working method, you will notice that I always make a complete analysis, explain what strikes me in the analysis and eventually draw a conclusion. Since I keep it as brief as possible, it is then up to the dreamer to respond and ask questions. If you have answered my question truthfully, then the idea / theory that I had is wrong and I will leave it at that for now
 

PaulKH

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I've had decades of dreams that would not fit in Harvey's theory, by the way, so don't feel challenged. :) In fact, we should always feel amazing that so many dreams refuse to fit into our "neat and tidy" boxes (sometimes they can be made to fit, but more often they just don't). They are so much more sophisticated and layered than that--we only catch fragments until our minds have been completely opened to more possibilities, and even then I suspect we consciously miss layers that are available.

Along that path, I've had plenty of dreams similar to yours that I consider *experience* dreams. Snippets of lives lived through others' eyes that expand my understanding/empathy and caring, and those sequences lead me step-by-step, dream-by-dream, closer to connecting to a grand experience (ie, growing my consciousness to be more inclusive of possibilities, and this, some might say, is enough of a motive/design of dreaming: to enlighten us, or rather stimulate us to evolve ourselves).

When I was studying for my novel, Dream Knights, I began to suspect and then get confirmation that there were distinct types of dream purposes that often mixed and matched in ways according to how aware the dreamer is, how ready they are. As I delved and analyzed and structured for the sake of my informative-entertainment blend, I only became more confident of this--and how narrow-minded it is to try and lump them all together. Dream "reasoning" can be as different as the stars in the sky, as diverse, and this should always lend a sense of wonder (and perhaps explorative excitement); otherwise, we are only limiting ourselves.
 

Harvey

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I've had decades of dreams that would not fit in Harvey's theory, by the way, so don't feel challenged. :) In fact, we should always feel amazing that so many dreams refuse to fit into our "neat and tidy" boxes (sometimes they can be made to fit, but more often they just don't). They are so much more sophisticated and layered than that--we only catch fragments until our minds have been completely opened to more possibilities, and even then I suspect we consciously miss layers that are available.

Along that path, I've had plenty of dreams similar to yours that I consider *experience* dreams. Snippets of lives lived through others' eyes that expand my understanding/empathy and caring, and those sequences lead me step-by-step, dream-by-dream, closer to connecting to a grand experience (ie, growing my consciousness to be more inclusive of possibilities, and this, some might say, is enough of a motive/design of dreaming: to enlighten us, or rather stimulate us to evolve ourselves).

When I was studying for my novel, Dream Knights, I began to suspect and then get confirmation that there were distinct types of dream purposes that often mixed and matched in ways according to how aware the dreamer is, how ready they are. As I delved and analyzed and structured for the sake of my informative-entertainment blend, I only became more confident of this--and how narrow-minded it is to try and lump them all together. Dream "reasoning" can be as different as the stars in the sky, as diverse, and this should always lend a sense of wonder (and perhaps explorative excitement); otherwise, we are only limiting ourselves.
What is my theory about this dream according to you Paul?
 

PaulKH

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Dear Harvey, it isn't wise or productive to answer this, and if you understood fully what was at stake, I believe you would un-ask the question.

As I said in private months ago, it's not your insight in question, but your presentation. I perceive your job-calling is tied to the spiritual (dreaming and spiritual growth are so intertwined that some would consider them the same), and therefore it is how you inspire (bring the motivation-of-understanding) that is more important than any other factor in your ministry. You could have the most pertinent wisdom to share in this age, and by your confusing and accusing half-posts, you undermine your own ability. Know that it is not your job or responsibility to be accusing--please do not wrongly take this burden upon yourself, for all it will earn you is the frustration that you hide behind a tiny amount of self-satisfaction. Both of those are traps laid out for you and diversions away from the benevolence you could be doing.

As a fundamental guide, please understand-and-follow the ancient wisdom: By your posts, you are known. (Perhaps even more important to understand today when public "deeds" are as easy as a click away.) The ease-of-access is the trap, rather than a freedom; do you understand this? The "freedom" to easily act like fools is the trap that will eventually ruin life-opportunities, and we are seeing more of this with each new generation, so *please* do not be a part of this mistake. Rather, win your struggle so you can be a part of the goodness that must come before it is too late, before people have forgotten what goodness even looks and feels like.



Sorry to veer from your dream, Tom, though I hope anyone with an open mind can benefit from this pleaded insight.
 

Harvey

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Dear Harvey, it isn't wise or productive to answer this, and if you understood fully what was at stake, I believe you would un-ask the question.

As I said in private months ago, it's not your insight in question, but your presentation. I perceive your job-calling is tied to the spiritual (dreaming and spiritual growth are so intertwined that some would consider them the same), and therefore it is how you inspire (bring the motivation-of-understanding) that is more important than any other factor in your ministry. You could have the most pertinent wisdom to share in this age, and by your confusing and accusing half-posts, you undermine your own ability. Know that it is not your job or responsibility to be accusing--please do not wrongly take this burden upon yourself, for all it will earn you is the frustration that you hide behind a tiny amount of self-satisfaction. Both of those are traps laid out for you and diversions away from the benevolence you could be doing.

As a fundamental guide, please understand-and-follow the ancient wisdom: By your posts, you are known. (Perhaps even more important to understand today when public "deeds" are as easy as a click away.) The ease-of-access is the trap, rather than a freedom; do you understand this? The "freedom" to easily act like fools is the trap that will eventually ruin life-opportunities, and we are seeing more of this with each new generation, so *please* do not be a part of this mistake. Rather, win your struggle so you can be a part of the goodness that must come before it is too late, before people have forgotten what goodness even looks and feels like.



Sorry to veer from your dream, Tom, though I hope anyone with an open mind can benefit from this pleaded insight.

Dear Paul it would be wise to mind your own bussyness, writing books and try to sell them, because you imposibly are able to answer my question because my theory was still in my mind! I am the only one explaining dreams here; not just dropping opinions or out of the air confusing the the dreamers who are looking for a solusion, the truth about their dreams. Why you are trying to make fun of me knowing in advance that you are unable to explain dreams. You said you are a writer, i assume you are a writer: cobbler stick to your last!
 
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Helia

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Thanks Paul..it is not appropiate to ask Tom about his sexual preferences etc
And I completely support your words..but I also want to say GOODbye to this forum here...again...last time H. Called my flower of Jung, having no idea who I am...all the best to you, Helia
Dear Harvey, it isn't wise or productive to answer this, and if you understood fully what was at stake, I believe you would un-ask the question.

As I said in private months ago, it's not your insight in question, but your presentation. I perceive your job-calling is tied to the spiritual (dreaming and spiritual growth are so intertwined that some would consider them the same), and therefore it is how you inspire (bring the motivation-of-understanding) that is more important than any other factor in your ministry. You could have the most pertinent wisdom to share in this age, and by your confusing and accusing half-posts, you undermine your own ability. Know that it is not your job or responsibility to be accusing--please do not wrongly take this burden upon yourself, for all it will earn you is the frustration that you hide behind a tiny amount of self-satisfaction. Both of those are traps laid out for you and diversions away from the benevolence you could be doing.

As a fundamental guide, please understand-and-follow the ancient wisdom: By your posts, you are known. (Perhaps even more important to understand today when public "deeds" are as easy as a click away.) The ease-of-access is the trap, rather than a freedom; do you understand this? The "freedom" to easily act like fools is the trap that will eventually ruin life-opportunities, and we are seeing more of this with each new generation, so *please* do not be a part of this mistake. Rather, win your struggle so you can be a part of the goodness that must come before it is too late, before people have forgotten what goodness even looks and feels like.



Sorry to veer from your dream, Tom, though I hope anyone with an open mind can benefit from this pleaded insight.
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Lex

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I agree with everyone else Harvey, you lack a great deal of tact and come across poorly.
Its not your business to pry what people don't willingly share.
These are people not book notations.
Perhaps you should reflect on your approach and behaviour.
Instead of being hostile and combative.
Either way Helia was lovely and now your toxic attitude has made them leave.

I want this to be a place of proper communication, interruptions, and openly not hostile because everyone's life and expriences and spirituality is different.

And I will do whatever it takes to keep this place growing in a postive way.
I will actively do my best to protect this little haven.
And I'm actively pissed off that Helia left.
I genuinely enjoyed their sweetness.
Do no speak with me again Harvey, you are not welcome.
 
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