a short but very puzzling dream

[j. oak 357silversword]

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as far as i can recall in this dream i was in a place not so much an apartment complex as a series of rooms, some small and others very large and spacious . not unlike adobe but light gray,more the color of granite but not granite either. not unlike the type of layout the pueblo villages have but all on one level. they were connected to each other by a series of enclosed passageways. some of the people were friendly, others not so friendly but ignored me.they communicated with each other by secret trolleys which moved through tunnels. once a trolley got to its destination, either a light went on next to the panel, which opened and then the other party received the message(or sometimes equipment) or sometimes a bell rang. not loudly. i did not always understand their conversation. because they spoke to each other in what were clearly coded messages. i felt they did this around me . because i was a stranger. now an interesting thing was at one point 2 of the passageways forked of in a Y shape.at the end of one was a door which could only be opened by entering a code.of 4 symbols. each one consisted of a symbol in a different alphabet combined to form a single word in English. of course only those who knew the code could open it. behind this door was a room. in the middle of the floor of the room was an octagon shaped door. it too could only be opened by a special code . underneath this door was a box. or rather a triple box that is, 3 boxes enclosed within each other. what this contained i never was able to find out, but this system was devised to avoid the necessity of constantly guarding it. now in this complex i heard a strange conversation. i heard a knock on the door. i turned ans saw a large,rather portly man in an olive green sweater and blue-gray trousers waiting a the door. after a few minutes it was answered by a tall thin man wearing a light blue vest. the first man had straight brown hair almost the color of gingerbread. the man who answered the door had red-orange hair. the conversation between them was like this: 1st man: are you going to pick up that load.take off for Charleston 2nd man:no need for that yet. we can't be sure. besides DELTA2 has to send his acknowledgement 1st man:all right,but-[just then the buzzer rang in front of the secret panel] the second man opened the secret doorway and examined the message,which he showed to the first man. to judge from their pleased and satisfied looks this message was very good indeed. they were both aware of my presence and not in the least bit put off by it. the second man even held up the message for me to see. it consisted of 4 picture messages. a bird (egret) a ship(frigate) a dog (greyhound) a fruit (lemon). of course they meant nothing to me. i merely smiled. the first man looked at the second , who nodded. the first man waved. "all right. see you later" i found myself in front of the secret room. some sort of dispute was going on. it was over whether the box should be moved to a new hiding place or remain where it was. i heard a mans voice say "i don't see why it should be moved. where it is now is more than safe" then a red haired woman who been standing spoke to me very clearly and not in code"if you knew what was in that box you would agree that it should be guarded day and night" i was about to reply when i woke up. and that is one of the shortest and most perplexing dreams i had. anybody skilled at decoding messages? if so, i invite you to help me decode this ​

 

[Arnfinnius]

it consisted of 4 picture messages. a bird (egret) a ship(frigate) a dog (greyhound) a fruit (lemon)

We'll start with this picture message
Egret is a large pure wild <nd free bird, interacting 3 elements and represent higher purpose, the war ship is threaten it's life and freedom, the threat is based in feelings( water) and strikes what is over feelings (understanding, etc), the greyhound represent running off purchasing a goal, but it seem to be a sour noy vert sweet fruit to gain, so the appeal to the nature of hunting is not there, so situation seems a bit stuck...
commentes J. Oak ?
Arnfinnius

 

[Arnfinnius]

I was thinking J.Oak
That under the octogonal(eternity symbol) door in the floor is this 3 boxes within each others and the egret(human soul) is in the centre of them, trapped in the psychological underground and is used as a kind of power station to energize the kind of existence within this structure of being.
Which has not a thing of interest for the soul.
It will not be moved for the prison is dependent on being underground in these sircumstances.
the Egret must overcome fear /the warship) contain it's passions (the greyhound=) and see the sweet and the sour fruits indifferent, to free it self from the bondage of misuse, and take to the wings of freedom. this of cause is something you must dedicate your personal life to, if it is going to happen.....

 

[j. oak 357silversword]

there is much to your analysis. because egrets are able to remain still for long periods of time they are a symbol of patience. seeing an egret in some cultures is regarded as a good omen. a frigate is a very light ship. there is a bird by the same name ,though. because they are not good swimmers but great fliers, they are also looked on as a symbol of travel and tenacity. because a frigate was small and fast compared to regular ships of the line, they were often used for reconnaissance. the greyhound,is of course a symbol of speed, also of good judgement. lemons have a symbolism that some people might find surprising because of their unusual flavor . and their unique profile lemons are looked on as a symbol of originality. they may have a sour taste on their own but adding lemon to a recipe will enhance the flavor of certain foods. lemon meringue pie etc. also lemon juice detoxes and purifies the system. an octagon is a symbol of resurrection and rejuvenation. in ancient times it was used in talismans and amulets to ward off black magic and evil spirits. because they could not be broken into smaller pieces like squares or triangles, they were considered perfect for this. an octagon symbolizes all directions. north,south,east,west.northeast,southeast, northwest,southwest, up,down. when we combine those symbols and analyze them that is when we will understand the message. your evaluation about 3 boxes may be correct.

 

[Arnfinnius]

well said J.Oak
I were thinking..
The whole structure is grey and on one level and movements between the structures is only tolerated under a specific ID given the right code, sounds similar to the power structure of our world. everything on one level means to try to control levels over from a level that is under, this is the whole project that this world has hunted for ages, and everytime we succeed in the smallest thing of understanding control, we feel so much pride.....
The code is 3 boxes within, so the egret tells about what the 3 boxes containes, a white bird represernt something that can fly, move between, uncontrolled by codes, the white means undivided, the other colors present themselves when the white light is splitted. So the egret represent the human soul undivided.
The first limitator is the warship, when the egret fly out of the aggression control, it must contain all fears of death with a calm peaceful mind, or stay
on in auschwitz.
Next the egret meets the greyhound, we're talking about a greyhound race here, the greyhound is racing round and round for ever to calm the passion after the hare, or rabbit. the longing passion after the rabbit who can sit for the whole night in a moontrance. so the egret must now contain all it's passions unmovable, or establish the view that everything is gold..
When we watch the greyhounds racing, it comes to our mind that we ourselves is racing just in the same way, and it's just idle passing time.
The lemon is here to consume alone and not as a part of some dish where other ingredients is mixed with it, and the egret must consume this sour bitterness with the same lovely heart as it was milk and honey.
the egret can then fly and rejoin our connection with the ultimate source of our existence, and through that transform our lives to joyful happiness where doings is just for endured richness and wealth, and that is for everyone, not like we are used to as a thing to war about, and some can have it but others not....

It seemed to me that I should elaborate slightly about what I meant J.Oak.

Sincerely, Arnfinnius

 

[Arnfinnius]

In fact, my friend, I think we should turn the approach around, and see it as we should start with the lemon and end with the warship, like if we were sitting calm and peaceful in the city of Gaza full of fear and despair, but still full of faith, and then the egret is free to fly, and we will receive freedom from this insanity at last.
Your friend Arnfinnius

 

[Arnfinnius]

I would like to mention that the octogonal door in the floor, should mean, have the effect, when you see it as Then we gets that all that follows will be felt like everlasting, a very difficult illusion

 

[j. oak 357silversword]

In fact, my friend, I think we should turn the approach around, and see it as we should start with the lemon and end with the warship, like if we were sitting calm and peaceful in the city of Gaza full of fear and despair, but still full of faith, and then the egret is free to fly, and we will receive freedom from this insanity at last.
Your friend Arnfinnius

arnfinnius,i think your analysis is extremely interesting. if the egret symbolizes the human soul what does the greyhound symbolize. fast movement? the greyhound is the fastest dog in the world, and the second fastest animal.only the cheetah is faster. greyhounds are noted for their gentle disposition,as well as their loyalty.now let us say we do as you recommend, start with the lemon and end up the frigate, what do we come up with?​

start with a tart but healthy fruit ,then continue with an incredibly fast dog, then wind up with a frigate a lightly armed ship much faster than ships of the line. as to what inside of the boxes being the human soul that is an interesting theory, one i had not thought of before. i think your theory of the place being a symbol of computerized society is accurate. i think when we read the symbols together it is showing us the qualities we need in order to get out of this mess. i look forward to your response, J. oak 357silversword​

 

[Arnfinnius]

The greyhound I do read as our days bound within a circle. where we empowered by our desire keep running till the end of the day, and find ourselves on the same spot as before, but still our situation has worsened.
The lemon is our emotianal bitterness,
The frigate represent here all fear we ever had.
the ocotogonal represent that all under it will be emotionally felt as lasting forever.

 

[j. oak 357silversword]

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this is the most unusual analysis i have yet heard from you. remarkable when one considers that the greyhound represents fast transport and getting from one point to another with unmatched speed. the lemon is a sour fruit, but when mixed with other foods it enhances the flavor, it is therefore a symbol of resourcefulness and flexibility. the frigate is a ship more lightly armed but faster than the ships of the line. it too is a symbol of speed and(possibly) solutions to problems. the octagon is a symbol both of leadership and transition.an intermediate shape between a square and a circle,it can symbolize interaction between the physical plane and the spiritual plane. as they say in geometry SQUARING THE CIRCLE and CIRCLING THE SQUARE. as to the place being a symbol of computerized man, this is true,and also a symbol of secrecy. they speak to each other in a code understood by them,but unintelligible to strangers. in this world and on this plane often there is a need for such secrecy. i look forward to your reply,J.oak357silversword.

 

[Arnfinnius]

Dear J.Oak, when everything is on the same level, like it is in this dream, it means everything must find it's solution on this level, and when so, a demand for absolute control rises from the fact of our dependent being psychology. so since this same level existence is not possible without an eternal source of vitality and absorbtion of unwanted, unabled to deal with, energy. This is something that needs to be on another level, tapped underground, with no other option to express it's divine quality than through this matrix. so what do you think is within the 3 boxes of hindrance, under the octogonal door, as the redhaired woman told you where so treassure's and the nervous guys would stress about rehiding.?

 

[j. oak 357silversword]

Dear J.Oak, when everything is on the same level, like it is in this dream, it means everything must find it's solution on this level, and when so, a demand for absolute control rises from the fact of our dependent being psychology. so since this same level existence is not possible without an eternal source of vitality and absorbtion of unwanted, unabled to deal with, energy. This is something that needs to be on another level, tapped underground, with no other option to express it's divine quality than through this matrix. so what do you think is within the 3 boxes of hindrance, under the octogonal door, as the redhaired woman told you where so treassure's and the nervous guys would stress about rehiding? Arnfinnius,i think your analysis is very penetrating. the underground boxes represent a form of energy they cannot handle entirely and so fear.{at least the nervous ones do}but the stronger ones keep it where it is. this is probably symbolic of digital society reducing existence to a dead level​

 

[j. oak 357silversword]

i now recall what the 3 boxes were. the outermost one was lead,the middle one was tungsten, the innermost one rose quartz. can you see the meaning in this? i am researching the symbolism. looking forward to your response, J. oak 357 silver sword​

 

[Arnfinnius]

Tungsten , as I in this context see syncrone with "the greyhound", has a very high melting point and boiling point, and of interest here poisonous to most animals. it's density is very high. I understand this as the need to transcend the level of comfort to have this hindranxe to dissolve. it should mean that to stop running on desire,it must be ableness to allow inner temperature an extreem rise, with an indifferent mind. Those who want this liberation, and see the absolute need for it ( which must be for doing such a painful thing) needs to have much faith...

 

[j. oak 357silversword]

very well analyzed,my friend. tungsten does indeed have a high melting point.the highest,in fact of any pure unalloyed metal. to allow inner temperature to rise would require a person of rare fortitude and self-mastery. tungsten and lead are both anti-radiation metals. but what of rose quartz? it has the ability to turn away bad vibrations and,is associated with the heart chakra . that the 2 outer boxes are hard metals but that this is the inner box is perhaps significant. your friend, J. oak357 Silver sword ​

 

[Arnfinnius]

I wonder if the inner box of rose quartz, with , as you noted, an ability to turn away bad vibrations, is used to establish a comfortable delusion to cling onto, as a chosen, more pleasurable feeling instead of the brutal painful situation, so the choice of some drug , which has separation of consciousness as effect, keeping the soul steady and confusing the person if he dips so deep in the drama, so he turns away from going deeper, where he would experience the situation from the all including heart, and from there fear arise, untill it changes into sorrow. a kind of alchemy . what do you think, my friend?

 

[j. oak 357silversword]

Arnfinnius, rose quartz crystal vibrates at the frequency 350 HZ but is also used in Tibetan singing bowls at 432 HZ. but it is also an insulator against electricity, which may be symbolic of whatever is in the box. it could represent a lot of things ,such as dark desires on the part of humanity,or getting hold of some great power without proper knowledge of how to use it(refer to WITNESSING EVENTS ON ANOTHER LEVEL OF REALITY in 5 parts, under MYSTIC DREAMS)or it could mean something such as cold fusion or something related to gravity beyond the current level of mankind's scientific knowledge to grasp.one friend of mine thinks this dream is more than symbolic and is,in fact intended both as a warning and guidance toward something. since i have had clairvoyant dreams i cannot disregard this. now let us examine the 3 boxes. lead- protection against radiation very heavy but tarnishes on on exposure to air.tungsten- protection against radiation.highly resistant to corrosion and the highest melting point of any unalloyed metal Rose quartz-insulator against electricity. healing vibrations,can help improve the rhythm of the heart. whoever designed this plainly did so with the intent that it should be permanent and contain whatever force might be released. we do not know what that is but to judge from the precautions taken it must be very powerful-and very dangerous. as to your suggestion offered often this is true as regards the inclination of many people to people to believe what they want to,or look for seemingly easy solutions(which usually turn out to be very hard) i must unhappily concur. this is one factor involved,but by no means the only one. ​

 

[j. oak 357silversword]

an update: i usually do not have continuation dreams or have the same person show up in another dream,but this has been the exception. i encountered the big,powerfully built man in the olive green sweater . he said"don't just concentrate on the boxes.look there" he pointed to 2 thick lines running parallel from the ground to the sky, running diagonally, one dark green and the other light green. "now look at the ionosphere" when i did i saw some craft flying just within it. and i also saw a very unusual,unforgettable sight. an immense field of light of 3 colors-bright yellow,copper,and bright green-was moving and expanding outward very slowly.then i saw i saw something else. have you ever seen something explode and implode simultaneously? because that is what i saw. silently. on the left hand side of the field. it was so thick i could almost call it solid light. but i am describing it accurately. it literally exploded and imploded at once. . now my friend thinks since yellow can be connected with the sun and copper is an excellent conductor and green can be associated with the earth,that this is in some way a message for nature and the planet , and has something to do with magnetism. she pointed out that none of the boxes are made of magnetic substances but copper is a superb conductor and was one of the lights in the air. none of us have the final answer but i am waiting for your evaluation of it. your friend,J.oak357 Silversword​

 

[Faby92]

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as far as i can recall in this dream i was in a place not so much an apartment complex as a series of rooms, some small and others very large and spacious . not unlike adobe but light gray,more the color of granite but not granite either. not unlike the type of layout the pueblo villages have but all on one level. they were connected to each other by a series of enclosed passageways. some of the people were friendly, others not so friendly but ignored me.they communicated with each other by secret trolleys which moved through tunnels. once a trolley got to its destination, either a light went on next to the panel, which opened and then the other party received the message(or sometimes equipment) or sometimes a bell rang. not loudly. i did not always understand their conversation. because they spoke to each other in what were clearly coded messages. i felt they did this around me . because i was a stranger. now an interesting thing was at one point 2 of the passageways forked of in a Y shape.at the end of one was a door which could only be opened by entering a code.of 4 symbols. each one consisted of a symbol in a different alphabet combined to form a single word in English. of course only those who knew the code could open it. behind this door was a room. in the middle of the floor of the room was an octagon shaped door. it too could only be opened by a special code . underneath this door was a box. or rather a triple box that is, 3 boxes enclosed within each other. what this contained i never was able to find out, but this system was devised to avoid the necessity of constantly guarding it. now in this complex i heard a strange conversation. i heard a knock on the door. i turned ans saw a large,rather portly man in an olive green sweater and blue-gray trousers waiting a the door. after a few minutes it was answered by a tall thin man wearing a light blue vest. the first man had straight brown hair almost the color of gingerbread. the man who answered the door had red-orange hair. the conversation between them was like this: 1st man: are you going to pick up that load.take off for Charleston 2nd man:no need for that yet. we can't be sure. besides DELTA2 has to send his acknowledgement 1st man:all right,but-[just then the buzzer rang in front of the secret panel] the second man opened the secret doorway and examined the message,which he showed to the first man. to judge from their pleased and satisfied looks this message was very good indeed. they were both aware of my presence and not in the least bit put off by it. the second man even held up the message for me to see. it consisted of 4 picture messages. a bird (egret) a ship(frigate) a dog (greyhound) a fruit (lemon). of course they meant nothing to me. i merely smiled. the first man looked at the second , who nodded. the first man waved. "all right. see you later" i found myself in front of the secret room. some sort of dispute was going on. it was over whether the box should be moved to a new hiding place or remain where it was. i heard a mans voice say "i don't see why it should be moved. where it is now is more than safe" then a red haired woman who been standing spoke to me very clearly and not in code"if you knew what was in that box you would agree that it should be guarded day and night" i was about to reply when i woke up. and that is one of the shortest and most perplexing dreams i had. anybody skilled at decoding messages? if so, i invite you to help me decode this ​

Hello
Here is "my interpretation" --> https://chat.openai.com/share/519cbeb9-ad77-4f5b-99f2-1ed8fd744b03


Your dream presents a fascinating and intricate tapestry of symbols and scenarios. Let's delve into its possible meanings:

1. Complex of Rooms and Passageways: The variety of rooms and passageways might represent the different aspects of your psyche or various stages of your life. Some being spacious and others cramped could reflect areas of your life where you feel free and open versus constrained or limited.
2. Adobe-like Structures and Pueblo Layout: This could symbolize a connection to foundational, perhaps primal or essential aspects of your life or personality. It may also represent a desire for simplicity or a return to basics in some area of your life.
3. People Communicating Secretly: Encountering both friendly and unfriendly individuals who communicate in code suggests feelings of being an outsider or not fully understanding the situations or social dynamics around you. It might also indicate a perception of hidden agendas or feeling excluded.
4. Trolleys, Secret Doors, and Codes: These elements suggest that there are aspects of your life or your own self that you find mysterious or hard to access. The use of codes and secret mechanisms could point to a search for deeper understanding or meaning, as well as a feeling that some things in life are just beyond your grasp or comprehension.
5. Conversation About Charleston and DELTA2: This specific dialogue, although cryptic, might be tied to your thoughts on decision-making or waiting for a signal to act. It could also reflect internal dialogues about when to proceed or hold back in certain situations.
6. Picture Messages: The images of an egret, frigate, greyhound, and lemon are quite specific and could have personal significance. Generally, birds often symbolize freedom or perspective; ships can represent journeys or transitions; dogs might symbolize loyalty or protection; and fruits often represent results or rewards. These could be elements of your life that you are trying to piece together or understand.
7. Red-haired Woman's Comment: Her remark about the box needing constant guarding might symbolize something precious or significant in your life that you feel needs to be protected or closely watched. This could be a relationship, a personal goal, or an aspect of your identity.
8. Overall Theme: The dream seems to weave a narrative about exploration, discovery, and the pursuit of understanding. It may reflect your feelings about navigating complex social environments, deciphering hidden meanings in interactions, or protecting something valuable in your life.

Your dream is rich in symbolism and could be inviting you to explore the uncharted territories of your subconscious, urging you to unlock deeper understandings of your life experiences and relationships.

Personal Numbers: 18, 27, 36, 45, 54, 63 Your Magic Number: 72

Each number carries its own symbolism and might connect with the dream's themes in unique ways, further enriching your introspection.



Try the tool out if you find out the answer is actually connected to your inner you. You could go deeper into analyzing it

Faby

 

[Arnfinnius]

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Arnfinnius, rose quartz crystal vibrates at the frequency 350 HZ but is also used in Tibetan singing bowls at 432 HZ. but it is also an insulator against electricity, which may be symbolic of whatever is in the box. it could represent a lot of things ,such as dark desires on the part of humanity,or getting hold of some great power without proper knowledge of how to use it(refer to WITNESSING EVENTS ON ANOTHER LEVEL OF REALITY in 5 parts, under MYSTIC DREAMS)or it could mean something such as cold fusion or something related to gravity beyond the current level of mankind's scientific knowledge to grasp.one friend of mine thinks this dream is more than symbolic and is,in fact intended both as a warning and guidance toward something. since i have had clairvoyant dreams i cannot disregard this. now let us examine the 3 boxes. lead- protection against radiation very heavy but tarnishes on on exposure to air.tungsten- protection against radiation.highly resistant to corrosion and the highest melting point of any unalloyed metal Rose quartz-insulator against electricity. healing vibrations,can help improve the rhythm of the heart. whoever designed this plainly did so with the intent that it should be permanent and contain whatever force might be released. we do not know what that is but to judge from the precautions taken it must be very powerful-and very dangerous. as to your suggestion offered often this is true as regards the inclination of many people to people to believe what they want to,or look for seemingly easy solutions(which usually turn out to be very hard) i must unhappily concur. this is one factor involved,but by no means the only one. ​

I think in the same way as you reshared from your friend , J.Oak. I think I will work through it all now , so it will take some time before I rewrites some words about your dream, but just before I go I will say about the two green strings of light going skywards, that it has a parallell in the "can-net" in cars, the controll steering inbetween sensors and the ecu , computers calculating the signals in to commands sent through the can- net to the actuators.