Dream Time
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Michael McMahon
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Lucid dreaming to some extent might mimic the stereotype of a depressed comedian where when you overestimate how ethical you are then you’ll underestimate how much more funnier or serious you could appear at first sight to others when you tell self-deprecating jokes. That way a lucid dream isn’t just a bit random but also a bit of an accident if you’re more amoral then you thought you were such that your most humiliating ideas end up being taken seriously by your unconscious. In last night’s dreams I was playing soccer against friends with a German WW2 stick grenade ball and then walking to the go-karts in headless and legless spider sandals as if my religious faith had given up on my spiritual faith through a punitive collective unconscious!
Michael McMahon
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Perhaps one way dreaming can stem a conversion to evil isn’t just by simulating a present or future evil self but also by simulating a past childhood evil self. This might be one reason why it’s easy to forget our dreams because the theme doesn’t immediately make sense. So as a young adult I’d vivid dreams of escaping my Irish secondary school and seeking refuge in a random house in my old housing estate in College Grove or of running out of my current parent’s estate as if I were being chased with neighbours somehow stabbing each other. Or I could be walking through a neighbouring woodland of the rocky road that’s usually a small bit overgrown only for the dream to present it like an idyllic Greek forest offering long walks to mystery locations as if each regional monument were close together. That dream isn’t evil per se but mimics what might have been a supremacist mindset were I truly insecure as a teenager. Hence dreaming can be a reminder that we weren’t born evil in presenting certain childhood memories as more exciting than they actually were under rose-tinted glasses.
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Michael McMahon
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Mayday. Mayday. Calling in Heathrow airport control tower. Multiple countries beset by gun crimes and threats of nuclear war in Ukraine. My blog is like a black box for future generations to discover the fatal decisions made by society before a catastrophe! I remember as a young child having a dream in which I was sliding down a metal beam of the twin towers on 9/11 as if it were a slide.
Ah, but do you intend to be functional/helpful to that future, or simply a self-serving "I told you so" or a self-sacrificing "whatever you do, don't be like me"? Heh, even playing-acting the mad prophet, even in satire, means more when the dots are connected.
I have studied prophets enough to know *none* of them wanted to be seen as mad or rambling or inconsequential. They wanted their brilliant insights to *mean* something beneficial to the humanity they were trying in their limited way to save (from itself, often). None of them *chose* to be overwhelmed and under-skilled at communication--they would all desperately want to resonate in a way that actually brought *meaning* to the pressure in their minds. So in this knowledge is the lesson of the importance of communication in ways that resonate, in a manner so lessons *can* be learned. Or else to that future you will be just yet another missed potential: the future doesn't need another weepy/raging or sarcastic/caustic prophet. They *need* examples/models who had resonating messages and learned how to resonate with their audiences (present or future). Good growth to you.
Michael McMahon
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Non-dreamy REM sleep could be viewed as a kamikaze disproof that your brain was conscious during the day by having the same neuronal patterns while dreamy REM sleep could prove you were conscious yesterday. Were we purely reductionistic then any slight differences in brain pattern between daily alertness and REM sleep would function as a proof of conscious action in any new neuronal circuit during REM much like Descartes pineal gland hypothesis. That way a negative response can still be productive to my lucid dream theories much like how developments in pure maths can have accidental benefits in other fields years later. I’ll tell that to my welfare officer at least for the lack of financial profits from my dream blog! We could use trace sheets of either other people’s brains or of your own REM sleep brain to serve as juxtaposition for a scan of your waking brain were the brain viewed as too complicated to analyse in isolation. Perhaps there’s a version of karma where the brain makes so little sense that anyone who objectifies you might actually be compelled to analyse a part of your mind such that my dream theories might be a mere opt-out clause for the stealthy demands of materialism!
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Oh Michael, how I know about opt-outs! It is always a challenge to view the poorly woven world without bitterness (or righteous indignation). Yet for the truly meaningful/purposeful/driven, it's worth trying to work beyond that--to find the reasons for work-arounds rather than opt-outs. I wish you the best. (The right-placed spirit with the nurtured-educated perspective *can* find the right dreams-as-guides to answers so rarely understood; your choice might then become whether or not to bring the insights into relevance.)
Michael McMahon
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I remember the comedian Dara O’Briain joking how in his middle age he forgot most of his theoretical physics degree he studied as a young adult. So when I failed my leaving cert in 2013 I often envisioned that I merely failed to revise properly in how I apparently forgot most of the content studied over the prior two years in my sleep-deprived geography exam. Yet now in retrospect after so many years of being tentative about my exams I never took seriously the worst case scenario that I actually did forget most of the content studied over my leaving cert years. I often knew I forgot a lot of my emotional and personal experiences in my school years but didn’t take seriously the idea I actually forgot the course syllabus too as if it were merely hidden in my unconscious somewhere. So it’s possible that the analytical skills of studying maths might be way more indirect than I first thought. After all in philosophy they still struggle to answer the basic question of what a number actually means in the real world but a worrying thought is that this uncertainty actually applies to all the rest of maths that we learn. In other words is the apparent partial amnesia of my maths classes during my leaving cert deliberate rather than accidental? If I could not reflexively answer basic questions about Irish history class a decade later then was any of it truly fathomed in the context of other minds with photographic memory? As such when it comes to Socratic ignorance the better the analytical skill is the more extremely ignorant you can feel about an unrelated subject rather than to sugercoat it by saying you’re only very ignorant of an unrelated subject. Paradoxically you’d almost be more ignorant than anyone who never even studied academia for the sake of impartiality! The analytical skill of studying trigonometry might make no sense in a jungle until someone punched you in the head and afterwards you’d to study triangles to stop you becoming deluded to think you were caring about anything else! As such studying maths can compel you to reveal that you don’t actually care about offering an opinion to someone in the context of how much harder you had thought about maths during your teen years. So one source of lucid dreaming might be that I’m compelled to be honest to my sleeping unconscious mind that I wasn’t as focused during the day than I thought I was at the time. It’d be like studying maths were itself a complex dream that we mostly forget in the name of free won’t! A more sinister version of childhood amnesia is that we forget not because we’re more serious than our childhoods but only a small bit more serious or even less explaining why childhood songs can be worrying sometimes!
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Michael McMahon
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One way to think of the binding problem of consciousness is as if each eye is quantum entangled with the other eye during REM sleep as if the movement of one eye can counterbalance and eventually synchronise with the other eye.
“For example, if a pair of entangled particles is generated such that their total spin is known to be zero, and one particle is found to have clockwise spin on a first axis, then the spin of the other particle, measured on the same axis, is found to be anticlockwise. However, this behavior gives rise to seemingly paradoxical effects: any measurement of a particle's properties results in an apparent and irreversible wave function collapse of that particle and changes the original quantum state.”
“For example, if a pair of entangled particles is generated such that their total spin is known to be zero, and one particle is found to have clockwise spin on a first axis, then the spin of the other particle, measured on the same axis, is found to be anticlockwise. However, this behavior gives rise to seemingly paradoxical effects: any measurement of a particle's properties results in an apparent and irreversible wave function collapse of that particle and changes the original quantum state.”
Michael McMahon
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Dreaming might mimic an encryption in how misremembering part of the dream might bar you remembering the rest of the dream until you remember all of the dream correctly as if it were all or nothing. Last night’s dream parodied my derealised panic attack in 2013 by presenting my parents’ house as 3-storied instead of two-storied as I’d once thought where my old bedroom was hidden under lock and key in the second floor with my older sister’s bedroom on the new third floor previously misinterpreted as my own. My cousin explained to me how I forgot my bedroom used to have polished wooden floors as if a simple renovation of the bedroom exceeded my comprehension! Then there were clothes mannequins left in the bathroom to account for all other ghostly lucid dreams!
Michael McMahon
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I remember years ago forgetting to take off my contact lenses when I went to sleep. It’s definitely not recommended for hygiene where I woke up with red eyes but who knows whether my dreams were in HD that night! So perhaps certain lucid dreaming gadgets like laser goggles can also be relevant for the opposite reason as a disproof of lucid dreaming. This could have silver linings as your unconscious mind is paradoxical. So the catch with sleeping through laser goggles or a torch shone on your eyelids without becoming lucid can be a concession that your unconscious mind is actually just as extreme as that light if you don’t immediately wake up in real life! In other words when you sleep through a loud alarm clock it might not just be that you don’t care in the moment out of fatigue but that you never actually cared about that amount of loudness! I remember being awoken with a chainsaw outside with the preceding dream about a massacre in the local food shop as a parody of sleeping through a chainsaw as if I were more violent than the chainsaw!
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Michael McMahon
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During REM sleep it might feel like each eye functioned like a dice or a poker card as if we remember our wins and forget our losses during sleep! It’d be like those old animal cartoons with love heart eyes that pop out and roll as if you needed two love heart cards to be confident!
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